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General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.21 03:10:00 -
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ya know, you can still be cap stable and fit all the rigor rigs you want right? all depends on how much you're willing to pay to get it done. for instance, a dual gistii a-type small booster tank can tank all mission rooms.
and remember this, a 400dps sustained tank can get it done for all L4 missions. so above that is just pure overkill.
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General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.21 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: General Trajan on 21/01/2011 03:34:27
 Originally by: Bumpage
Yeah i know i can be cap stable with spending alot more isk... Going down to a medium booster for 500mil more gives almost the same tank for alot less cap however my budget is about 1bil atm :( ... Anyway can anyone tell me which ship is most likely to be more worth while over time? reguardless of current setups as skills will change anyway
not hard to figure what ship is best for pve. it all boils down to what YOU value more! you value safety over isk per hour? then navy scorp is your ship. want to make the most isk per hour right now? then obviously it's the CNR.
look, tanking with the CNR isn't a problem. so fit it for the most damage potential. "the faster you can kill the less you'll need to tank"
i'm quite sure you know all this. you've stuck your big toe in the water and know it's cold. now you need to decide if you're ready to take the plunge or not!
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General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: General Trajan on 21/01/2011 13:17:49
Originally by: Bumpage
Edited by: Bumpage on 21/01/2011 12:45:18
300tank 1200dps? lol pretty much out of my range of dps ships :) If i assume correctly you'l be in something stupid like a pirate gunship? (My guns skills are dire :P)
If u arnt in a 1000+ dps ship with such a low tank i'd be supprised so i could be wrong i guess =D
you speak as if you are doing full room aggros. i hope that's not the case unless you're in a afk domi or rattler and such. keep in mind 400dps "sustained" tank. and that's not including "reinforced" if that what you're getting at. and here is an example of a dual small booster setup: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/34940-Raven-Navy-Issue-caldari-dual-boost-pimpin.html i used to use it and it can complete angel extravaganza bonus room without warpouts. so that should tell ya something.
and the dps you put out (especially for missile dps) it's the quality of the dps rather than the quantity of it. that's why you need rigor rigs and target painter(s). not just for BS and BCs, but also cruisers in particular. everything smaller can go to your drones.
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General Trajan
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.21 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99
Target painters are 25km optimal/50km falloff for t1, 30km optimal/60km falloff for t2, not 45 and 90km. It's also not like projectile for decent partial dmg in falloff, if you miss, you miss for the cycle. TPs are generally used only with torps, not because people like fumbling with activating tps, but because rigors don't work with unguided missiles. Also, 900 dps in impossible for cruise CNR without a full set of top end implants, regardless of fittings, due to damage mod stacking.
Forum trolls are big on gank, to make themselves look "cooler." There's a balance at some point from diminishing returns due to stacking. The right balance is different for everyone, depending on preference and how likely you'll be distracted by rl circumstances. Extremes on either end is unlikely to fit the needs of majority of people.
that's funny because my caldari char does in fact get 45-optimal and 90-falloff with target painters. target painters aren't just for torp golems ya know. they do in fact help out with cruise. in particular T2 fury cruise for the most damage possible.
and 900dps is not impossible with the CNR because in fact mine can do around 940dps last time i used it before i moved on to the golem. it's all about how you fit it to get that dps. and with the new incursion hardwires coming out, now over 1k dps will be possible without having to spend isk for a set of kaikka's BCSs (witch i was actually going to buy until i got the golem and put another char in a cap  )
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